blame their own party. and when it comes to the economy, as a whole, 54% of people say that the bad economy is w.'s fault. only 27% are ready to blame the current president of the united states, barack obama. for more on this as well as some other hot top stories of the week, let's bring in bill press, author of "toxic talk." and also with us tonight is heidi harris, i don't know if heidi's had anything to do with that or not. >> not poisoning them. >> and joe madison with us tonight. great to have all of you here. heidi, i know that you don't like polls so let me present it to you this way. as a question, who's winning in the arena of public opinion when it comes to the debt ceiling debate in washington? >> well, you know, i think the voters are disgusted with everybody. the way i look at it is 14 trillion, 16, 20, what difference it make? 12 zeros.